The
Fourth Phase Podcast

with Host JJ PARMA

now live

LISTEN to JJ & Kristel HERE
ON THE FOURTH PHASE PODCAST

PODCAST

P O D C A S T

THE FOURTH PHASE PODCAST MISSION

In Basic Underwater Demolition SEAL (BUD/S) training, there are three brutal phases a candidate must complete to earn the trident and serve among the world’s most elite warriors. But when the uniform comes off—what comes next?

How do we carry that same level of discipline, purpose, and excellence into everyday life?
How do any of us—veterans or not—learn to live in a way that’s intentional, resilient, and truly elite?

Welcome to The Fourth Phase.

Hosted by 21-year retired Navy SEAL JJ Parma and his wife and cohost Kristel, The Fourth Phase Podcast is your reset point. It’s for those who feel the call to simplify, reconnect, and realign with what matters most.

This show brings things back to the basics: real food, real relationships, real purpose, and real joy. But it doesn’t shy away from the hard stuff. JJ and Kristel tackle life’s struggles and challenges in a raw, honest way—inviting listeners to face what’s real so they can move forward with clarity and strength.

Every week, they explore how to live well in today’s chaotic world—so you can improve your physical, mental, and emotional health, deepen your connection with self and others, grow in your career and finances, and experience true fulfillment and simplicity.

Through unfiltered SwimBuddy conversations and insight from best-in-class experts, The Fourth Phase offers powerful tools and truths for people ready to live on purpose.

This is what comes after survival—this is where we learn to truly live.

New episodes drop every Wednesday. Subscribe now and start living your Fourth Phase.

PHYSICAL HEALTH

MENTAL &

EMOTIONAL HEALTH

RELATIONSHIPS &
CONNECTION

CAREER & FINANCIAL
HEALTH

PERSONAL FULFILLMENT
& CONTRIBUTION

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The Fourth Phase Podcast features real, grounded conversations with exceptional individuals who are committed to living with purpose. Whether you're reshaping your health, leading with integrity, overcoming adversity, or building something meaningful—we're not looking for perfection, but progress and authenticity.

Tell us what you'd love to share with our audience and how your experience could positively impact our community.

Due to the volume of submissions, we’re not able to respond to every request. If it’s a fit, someone from our team will reach out to schedule a pre-interview.

Submit your story below—we look forward to hearing from you.

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The Fourth Phase Podcast

now live

LISTEN to JJ & Kristel HERE ON THE FOURTH PHASE PODCAST

P O D C A S T

THE FOURTH PHASE PODCAST MISSION

RELATIONSHIPS & CONNECTION

CAREER & FINANCIAL HEALTH